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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ozziedog" data-source="post: 645681" data-attributes="member: 13810">I’ve not heard of that analogy before. As yours has proven, toe in is required unless there are some drastic alterations to the vehicle. From memory a half degree toe in is all that’s needed although any toe in is better than toe out. I’ll look up the exact measurements required when I get home from work today. Shock absorbers shouldn’t have any bearing on the matter unless they’re mangled. It’s easy enough to do yourself with a string line or two and making a parallelogram then measuring in from that. Try it first and see if you can get the toe out  reading then you’ll know exactly hiw much to move it.Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,,there’s a lot to be said for stock  <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>