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Hey,does anyone out there know how to remove the barrell from a sliding door handle? I have a decent sliding door handle to go on my 1970 Dormy,but no key.I have the original pitted tatty sliding door handle but I have the key for this.Is there any way to take the barrell out of the good handle which is locked and has no key?
 

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Check the part that goes into door and you'll find a small screw head,remove it and barrel will come out.Wire brushing sometimes helps to see it.

Steve
 

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Managed to save the handle today.I tried for ages to pick the lock to release the collar,but failed.So cut it off with a grinder in the end which revealed the grub screw and out popped the barrell :D
 

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I am in a similar position, I bought a brand-new sliding door handle, which is locked, but don't have the key for it...

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What is my best option here—should I cut off the collar so I can replace the barrel (£??), and buy a new collar (Approx £30)? Or is this now a lost cause and would I be better off buying another handle with keys (£40—211-843-703HR)?

My bus has 4 different keys, one for the ignition, one for the cab doors, one for the sliding door, and one for the fuel cap. I've no idea where the keys are for the tailgate and engine lid.
 

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take the small grub screw out and the barrel should come out. You should find a number on the lock shaft and this will be what you need for a new key.
 

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I am in a similar position, I bought a brand-new sliding door handle, which is locked, but don't have the key for it...

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What is my best option here—should I cut off the collar so I can replace the barrel (£??), and buy a new collar (Approx £30)? Or is this now a lost cause and would I be better off buying another handle with keys (£40—211-843-703HR)?

My bus has 4 different keys, one for the ignition, one for the cab doors, one for the sliding door, and one for the fuel cap. I've no idea where the keys are for the tailgate and engine lid.

You can drill a hole in the collar to access the grub screw , I’ll see if I can find the dimensions
 

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@davidoft that would be great, if I can get a rough idea of the position of the grub screw underneath the collar I will try that!
 

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Here is a hack to make one key fit two locks or more. Take the barrel out of the one you want to modify and insert the key you want to use. File away the high spots and the key will now open this lock. Pick the key that makes the least number of highs. Remember the more highs you file off there is the possibility of other keys fitting. I reduced three key locks to one. Tailgate, doors and sliding door. Next is to make ign key fit engine cover. So will have 2 keys instead of 5. I filed a notch in the ign key too but paint would do too. If you have spare barrels you can use the innards to reduce filing but it is fiddly with the microscopic springs which are essential.
 

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