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Could be a late 72. 8)

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Funny, as the Latebay site claims 1972 Crossover as their own too!

Unless I'm mistaken, if you weld in the indicator holes on the front panel and cut out lower indicator holes, then put on early bumpers then you have a homemade crossover - at least looks wise, correct?
 
vanagonman said:
Funny, as the Latebay site claims 1972 Crossover as their own too!

Unless I'm mistaken, if you weld in the indicator holes on the front panel and cut out lower indicator holes, then put on early bumpers then you have a homemade crossover - at least looks wise, correct?

You are right it would "look" like a crossover, but it wouldn't be, same as sticking a fibreglass split front on an early doesn't make it a split.
Whats your point?
 
Just trying to figure out what makes a Crossover different. I also read somewhere it also has to do with not having an inspection hatch above the engine. Would you know if 73s have an inspection hatch? That could be a useful modification for my 72.

Anyone have a list of differences between a 71-72-73 Bay?

You lost me on the whole Splitty thing. Don't think you'll convince anyone that a 73 Bay with a Splitty front end graft looks identical to a Splitty. :shock:

On the other hand, if you may happen to own a Brazilian Bay like this one....Lowlight front end, Splitty body!! Then maybe :lol:

Would this be welcome "to the club"?? ;)

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Simplistically the term Crossover, XO, refers to a period in 1972 when some vans were built with the new square rear lights and squarer air intakes, but they retained the low front lights and wrap-around front bumper. The larger rear was designed to take the optional 1700 type 4 / pancake / suitcase engine. Further less noticeable differences include flared arches, fixed rear apron/valance, late type engine support, flared arches amongst many others.

( taken from the tech section )
 
Some other detail differences between a crossover and a '73 model year that spring to mind:
The crossovers retained the instruments of the 'earlies', for example the indicator lamps in the dash, and the heater controls are the same as the 'earlies' i.e. two red and two blue levers, whereas from '73 onwards they had two red and one blue. Indicator stalks on the crossovers remained the same as the earlies, wheras from '73 onwards they changed shape, with the wiper controls being moved to the steering column at the same time. The Volkswagen script remained on the tailgate for the crossovers, but was dispensed with from the '73 model year onwards. Also the crossovers kept the larger VW emblem on the front, which was reduced in size from '73 onwards.

It's for those reasons and the more obvious round bumpers and low indicators etc that I feel a crossover is more 'at home' in the 'early' camp, although I guess it's a 'privilege' that we can be included in the 'late bay' camp too, such as the Late Bay forum that you mention Vanagonman, and hence the term 'crossdressers' is so apt! :lol:

Having owned a couple of late bays previously, I'll probably join the LateBay forum at some stage, and will 'show off' my mint firebus that I briefly owned, but I think my avatar will definitely be of one of my lates as opposed to my crossover. :D
 

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