But is this art?

[slammedkustom]

me n Minkytastic went up london at the weekend, we visited the dinosaurs in the natural history museum and then hit the tate modern to meet up with my friend/neighbour and his new lady friend.

most of it was rubbish and not my kind of thing but then we found this

its an early split in rough condition which is loaded up with 30 toboggans all carrying "survival packs".. a torch, blanket, food.

kind of odd but being a dubber i thought it was the best thing there!

i also got told off twice! once for talking on my mobile and then cos i walked over one of the exhibits! well it looked more like they had the builders in than an exhibit!

 

[Justin & Muttley]

I've seen that before - it's officially the most expensive VW bus in the world...

 

[slammedkustom]

they obviously havent been to a vw show lately! :shock:

 

[Justin & Muttley]

they obviously havent been to a vw show lately! :shock:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[emerald]

whats it meant to mean? if it has a message behind it then id say it was art, if it doesnt then its rubbish :lol:

 

[Grazy]

Art my arse it`s a bloody split for a start :lol:

 

[Justin & Muttley]

The Pack 1969
The Pack exudes the chaotic and dynamic energy which Beuys considered essential in order to bring change in society. Twenty-four sledges, resembling a pack of dogs, tumble from the back of a VW van. Each sledge carries a survival kit made up of a roll of felt for warmth and protection, a lump of animal fat for energy and sustenance, and a torch for navigation and orientation. Beuys commented: ‘This is an emergency object: an invasion by the pack. In a state of emergency the Volkswagen bus is of limited usefulness, and more direct and primitive means must be taken to ensure survival.’

This strongly autobiographical work refers directly to Beuys’s plane crash over the Crimea during the Second World War. He often described being rescued by a band of Tartars who coated his body with fat and wrapped him in felt. Whether real or mythical, the story shows the symbolic importance of these materials in Beuys’s mind. It also suggests a fable of death and rebirth in which Beuys is purged, perhaps of his wartime guilt, and brought back to life by a nomadic people.


In short, bollocks!

 

[slammedkustom]

art or arse!

i belive it is arse! :lol:

 

[Shaggy]

I love that, I remember going to the tate to see it, I must admit the split was an appeal and also got me to buy a bus, but still I believe its art but then I also think you have to understand more about the artist, which in someways I feel is stupid as you should be able to look at a piece of art and understand it. but I still love it, but i am a crazy

it is nice to see it in the flesh though

Plus I have seen alot worse, walked thought my local student art place the other day, full of stuck up kids making you feel uncomfortable cause your not 16 or have funny hair, pissed me off a little bit I hate people that don't just relax and enjoy and interact with people, but then I guess trying to be cool is the pursuit of youth.

OK rant over

 

[Clem]

This strongly autobiographical work refers directly to Beuys’s plane crash over the Crimea during the Second World War. He often described being rescued by a band of Tartars who coated his body with fat and wrapped him in felt. Whether real or mythical, the story shows the symbolic importance of these materials in Beuys’s mind.

That all makes it clear to me.
Assuming that tale to be genuine, the scene created is pretty striking, and although self indulgent, creates an incredible image. 8)

Most of the art slagged by the 'water colour lovers' may seem pointless at first glance, but its understanding the story behind it that brings it to life.
Tracey Emins work is classic of this.

 

[andewilson]

i believe this and indeed anything can be art. but when someone buys it and takes it home then it reverts back to being yet another tatty split.
im sure someone bought that scruffy bed that tracy emins did. bug henge was the best bit of vw art.

 

[Shaggy]

There is still a fine line between art and crap and its easy to tell when someone gets it wrong, but when some gets it right its hard to tell if it is art, also if the art world says someone is an artist then anything they do we see as art, its just good or bad.

Personally I like ice cream by the sea front

 

[Clem]

im sure someone bought that scruffy bed that tracy emins did. bug henge was the best bit of vw art.

Good example. To her it represented a period of severe depression in her life when she struggled for motivation of any sort, but what would it mean to anyone else? Maybe someone who could empathise? Possibly ... :?