dubdubz
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coolmakes sense does mean though another box to locate and wire - I wonder if the Microsquirt can do away with the EDIS? don't think it can...
Crank trigger ignition - info and ramblings!
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coolmakes sense does mean though another box to locate and wire - I wonder if the Microsquirt can do away with the EDIS? don't think it can...
It is a pretty easy installation when you follow it logically. You do need to be good at crimping/soldering though.
Looks like people still use the MicroSquirt with EDIS for simplicity.
Looks like people still use the MicroSquirt with EDIS for simplicity.
dubdubz
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any updates Jon? looking to get this started again for me...
so I think I will do megajolt with the obvious edis, and trigger wheel. Just still not sure on MAP or TPS, I think as before MAP is better.
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so I think I will do megajolt with the obvious edis, and trigger wheel. Just still not sure on MAP or TPS, I think as before MAP is better.
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Yes, all up and running. Worked fine out the box so to speak. Van pulls really well, tuned the map by ear.
How far along are you mate ? Do you need any advice, help sourcing parts, installing and running? Give me a shout and I'll talk you through it
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I have tuned it a bit since this video. Honestly it is so smooth and part throttle response is great, much better than with the dizzy.
How far along are you mate ? Do you need any advice, help sourcing parts, installing and running? Give me a shout and I'll talk you through it
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I have tuned it a bit since this video. Honestly it is so smooth and part throttle response is great, much better than with the dizzy.
dubdubz
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Err just starting to work what I need, so I'm at ground zero. Nothing bought yet.
So yes advice please on all aspects, buying, installing. Pm might be easier, and we can put progress on the thread...
So yes advice please on all aspects, buying, installing. Pm might be easier, and we can put progress on the thread...
Ok, I'll send you some info next week.
dubdubz
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Some photos from the scrap book:
Dizzy blank with cap to bung up the dizzy hole.
All painted
Drilling the vac ports in the manifolds, all 4, then use some barbed fittings. I bought these off eBay for R/C cars.
Tapping the holes
Nipple fitted with thread lock, make sure the inside of the manifold is clear of any crud though.
Repeat for all cylinders.
Vac plenum chamber to smooth vac signal. Use silicon hose to connect to the manifold ports. This is 1.25 inch drain pipe with ends. Just drill these and screw in the barbs, make sure they are sealed (use thread lock or epoxy glue once the thread is cut). Then clear out the swarf and glue the end caps on. 4 connections from cylinders, one to the megajolt.
Coil pack from a ford fiesta, this is gen2 so I needed to make up the leads. If you get a mondeo gen1 then you can buy leads easily. Note the firing order is 1432, and as it is wasted spark, 2&4 can be swapped for a neater instal. The standard ford firing order is 1342 I think, so you will need to take care. Just follow my wiring.
Edis module located on the top coil mount and I used a self tapper on the other end.
The wiring is simple but you must connect all earths together at the edis and use quality screened cable for the Sensor connections.
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Dizzy blank with cap to bung up the dizzy hole.
All painted
Drilling the vac ports in the manifolds, all 4, then use some barbed fittings. I bought these off eBay for R/C cars.
Tapping the holes
Nipple fitted with thread lock, make sure the inside of the manifold is clear of any crud though.
Repeat for all cylinders.
Vac plenum chamber to smooth vac signal. Use silicon hose to connect to the manifold ports. This is 1.25 inch drain pipe with ends. Just drill these and screw in the barbs, make sure they are sealed (use thread lock or epoxy glue once the thread is cut). Then clear out the swarf and glue the end caps on. 4 connections from cylinders, one to the megajolt.
Coil pack from a ford fiesta, this is gen2 so I needed to make up the leads. If you get a mondeo gen1 then you can buy leads easily. Note the firing order is 1432, and as it is wasted spark, 2&4 can be swapped for a neater instal. The standard ford firing order is 1342 I think, so you will need to take care. Just follow my wiring.
Edis module located on the top coil mount and I used a self tapper on the other end.
The wiring is simple but you must connect all earths together at the edis and use quality screened cable for the Sensor connections.
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Sample map, I have been working on the lower rev range, anything over 3k is full advanced. This is similar to an svda curve with vac advance.
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dubdubz
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Awesome Jon, thanks for the pics. Pm an email address as I need to pick your brains ref suppliers of stuff. Trigger wheels might not be cheap but it will work, eBay items can be pot luck.
dull (to some) pics of wiring would be great, or any tips there?
how did you hook up your rev counter?
dull (to some) pics of wiring would be great, or any tips there?
how did you hook up your rev counter?
Wiring it all shrink wrapped and neatly put away in sheathing ))
Rev counter is just the rev output from the MJ that you need to shove up the conduit to the front of the bus. Not done mine yet as I will need to save for a suitable gauge. You can even add a shift light if you feel the need
Pm sent.
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Rev counter is just the rev output from the MJ that you need to shove up the conduit to the front of the bus. Not done mine yet as I will need to save for a suitable gauge. You can even add a shift light if you feel the need
Pm sent.
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Slight update here, a little video clip of the config SW interface and also a couple of the MJ placement.
Megajolt controller in the Devon wardrobe
And the SW running
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Megajolt controller in the Devon wardrobe
And the SW running
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I'm just gonna stick with dizzy's I think :lol:
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excting times - ebay delivered a v4 megajolt with map sensor, a gen1 coil pack, leads, EDIS4 trigger wheel and loads of wiring.
The MJ also came with a hard rev limiter daughter board - which basically kills the coil power
I want to do a real covert install -super clean- hiding the coil pack, MJ will be in the bus anyway. There'll be no dizzy and the fuel pump is already electric...
The only issue I have is my LC1 and the MJ need a serial connection - so not sure that although I have 2 usb/serial leads if I'll be able to run both programs at same time? alt+tab between them when it comes to tuning....
The MJ also came with a hard rev limiter daughter board - which basically kills the coil power
I want to do a real covert install -super clean- hiding the coil pack, MJ will be in the bus anyway. There'll be no dizzy and the fuel pump is already electric...
The only issue I have is my LC1 and the MJ need a serial connection - so not sure that although I have 2 usb/serial leads if I'll be able to run both programs at same time? alt+tab between them when it comes to tuning....
Second laptop is your best bet
Can't wait to see your install when it is done.
I was out in my van today and it is running very sweet, pulls so strong and have my rev limiter set to 5k, so it drops the advance down to 10 BTDC and cuts the power smoothly. The more I drive it the more impressed I am. You will be very happy once you have done the instal
Let me know when you want my maps, please let me know your engine spec as well.
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Can't wait to see your install when it is done.
I was out in my van today and it is running very sweet, pulls so strong and have my rev limiter set to 5k, so it drops the advance down to 10 BTDC and cuts the power smoothly. The more I drive it the more impressed I am. You will be very happy once you have done the instal
Let me know when you want my maps, please let me know your engine spec as well.
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dubdubz
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after our week long trip in cumbria and the lakes - on the old svda it really has gee'd me to try and get this done sooner rather than later....
wish I had had the time before we went, as although it was pretty good - I just know with mapped ignition it would be so smooth and nice to drive....
The issue I have is what sensor to use- as I have one but really don't want to do my normal which is a bodged but working install, then tidy. Will any CPS work?
wish I had had the time before we went, as although it was pretty good - I just know with mapped ignition it would be so smooth and nice to drive....
The issue I have is what sensor to use- as I have one but really don't want to do my normal which is a bodged but working install, then tidy. Will any CPS work?
It needs to be a VR sensor, not a Hall sensor.
Any decent one will work, provided you get the wiring polarity right.
I went the hidden route so used the one from the dubshop in the us. Alternatively you can use a stock ford one from any breakers and it will be fine.
Usually the sensors are pretty robust, so if yours is not working then check the following:
Polarity
Distance to trigger wheel (1or 2 mm ideal)
Noise on the signal wire , use quality shielded cable earthed at both ends.
Pm me and we can chat.
Can't wait to see it working.
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Any decent one will work, provided you get the wiring polarity right.
I went the hidden route so used the one from the dubshop in the us. Alternatively you can use a stock ford one from any breakers and it will be fine.
Usually the sensors are pretty robust, so if yours is not working then check the following:
Polarity
Distance to trigger wheel (1or 2 mm ideal)
Noise on the signal wire , use quality shielded cable earthed at both ends.
Pm me and we can chat.
Can't wait to see it working.
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Is it alive yet ? I am dying to know.
Mine is running very sweet at the moment.
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Mine is running very sweet at the moment.
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dubdubz
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jonboylaw said:
Er no
Worked away last week, family stuff at the weekend, I'm itching to get this going. I have a day off on Tues, maybe I'll get to adjust the trigger wheel to fit the pulley at least.
Do you have an 'adjusted' map now?
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very interesting read guys.
i'm researching similar myself...albeit on my porsche 911 engine. thinking of going the megasquirt route though and hopefully doing away with all of the original fuel injection. Also looking into the possibility of running Fuel rails with Coil-on-plug sparks. this will be a long term build as I collect the parts while living in Aus with the intention of fitting when i return in a couple of years. The main reason why I am doing this as i may be fitted a supercharger... not sure whether this will happen, but super excited just to be researching whats involved
i'm researching similar myself...albeit on my porsche 911 engine. thinking of going the megasquirt route though and hopefully doing away with all of the original fuel injection. Also looking into the possibility of running Fuel rails with Coil-on-plug sparks. this will be a long term build as I collect the parts while living in Aus with the intention of fitting when i return in a couple of years. The main reason why I am doing this as i may be fitted a supercharger... not sure whether this will happen, but super excited just to be researching whats involved
