What engine size?

[Scampi]

Was speaking to a mate tonight and for some reason he is not convinced about his engine size in his van.

On his V5 it says it is a 1700cc and it is a type 1 engine.

What are the main clear cut ways of telling the size?

Cheers dudes

 

[slammedkustom]

not an easy way to tell from looking at it, a block that should be a 1300 could be 1300, 1600, 1641, 1679, 1776, 1835, 1914.....
apart from stripping it down you cant really tell

if hes worried for insurance reasons then get it changed to 1600. my logbook said my bus had a 10litre engine till a while ago! :shock:

 

[Clem]

Many originally Type 4 engined vans have been changed to Type 1 as when they go 'pop' its a cheaper fix.
I have a 1700 crossover at the mo which has a 1600 Type 1 fitted. Check the engine code to be sure.

 

[Justin & Muttley]

...my logbook said my bus had a 10litre engine till a while ago! :shock:

You mean it doesn't???

 

[slammedkustom]

shhh! my insurance might be listening! :shock:

ive got a 10litre twin turbo diesel in the back with a 250 shot of NOS! :lol:

 

[Scampi]

So can you decipher the engine code easily enough?

 

[Scampi]

Anyway if so, the engine code from the front at the bottom of the oil filler is

AB34071e

Anybody?

 

[Scampi]

Can't find anything on the t2 owners site suggetsing the start of that code.

But there is little bit on the Samba saying that it could be a 44 bhp engine from an automatic engine?

 

[Scampi]

Some people are telling me it's a original 1300 engine and some are now telling me it's a 1600?

WTF, anybody?????

Please :lol:

 

[Snakey]

AB is a replacment 1600 case.
Just found it on type2.com

 

[speedwell68]

AB is a replacment 1600 case.
Just found it on type2.com

An AB is a 1300 Bug engine, my bus had one fitted.

 

[Snakey]

Weird!

Pulled the list down from type 2.

This should help you decipher what sort of engine you have in your Volkswagen. The "Code" column shows the first character or two of the engine code, stamped on the case. I supplied data for Porsche 914 cases as well as VW 411/412 cases just in case your Bus has one of those engines in it (since they are easily interchangeable).



Volkswagen Type 1

Code: Year: Engine:
4 1960 1200
5 1961 1200
6 1962 1200
7 1963 1200
8 1964 1200
9 1965 1200
FO 1966 1300
HO/TO 1967 1500
H5 1968-1969 1500
B6 1970 1600 (dual relief, single-port)
AE 1971-1972 1600 (dual-port)
AH 1973-1974 1600 (8mm head studs w/ case savers)
AJ 1975-1979 1600 (fuel-injected)


Volkswagen Type 2

Code: Year: Engine:
Numerals 1961-1963 1200 (see Type 1 listings)
O 1964 1500 (no cam bearings)
H 1965 1500
HO 1966-1967 1500 (no crossmember holes)
B5 1968-1969 1600 (single relief)
AE 1971 1600 (with crossmember holes)
CB 1972-1973 1700 (dual carb, manual trans)
CD 1973 1700 (dual carb, auto trans)
AW 1973-1974 1800 (dual carb)
AW 1975 1800 (fuel-injected)
ED 1975 2000
GD 1976-1979 2000 ('79 has Vanagon heads)
GE 1979 2000 (California only, Vanagon heads)
CV 1980-1983 2000 (Vanagon -- unique case and heads)


Volkswagen Type 3

Code: Year: Engine:
O 1963-1965 1500 (no cam bearings)
TO 1966-1967 1500
UO 1968-1969 1600 (fuel-injected)
UO 1970 1600 (dual-relief)
U5 1971-1973 1600 (7.7:1 compression)
X 1972 1600 (7.3:1 compression)


Volkswagen Type 4

Code: Year: Engine:
W 1971 1700
EA 1972-1974 1700
EB 1973 1700 (California only)
EC 1974 1700


Porsche 914

Code: Year: Engine:
W 1970-1971 1700 (8.2:1 compression, D-Jetronic)
EA 1972-1973 1700
EB 1973 1700 (7.3:1 compression)
EC 1974 1800 (CA-only, 7.3:1 comp, L-Jetronic)
AN 1800 (8.6:1 comp, D-Jetronic)
GA 1973-1974 2000 (7.6:1 comp, 3 intake studs)
GB 2000 (8.0:1 comp)
VO 1700 (Euro-only, magnesium)
1800 (Euro-only, magnesium)
2000 (Euro-only, magnesium)


Replacement Cases
(Never supplied in new cars -- only sold over the counter. All are
dual-relief with 10mm oil passages).

Code: Year: Engine:
F1 1300/1600
F2 1300/1600
DO 40-hp part if last digit is "X"
D1 Sometimes a 40-hp part
AB 1966-1979 1600
AD 1600
AK 1967-1974 1500/1600
AM 1600
AS Sometimes listed as Super Beetle orig. case
for '73-on.

 

[no 6]

Good work, but it still doesn't tie it down for me. I have an 'AD', which is a 'replacement' 1600. As far as I understand, the standard '1600' block can be a 1584 or a 1641 without any mods and all sorts of other sizes with mods. Given that it's no doubt been reconditioned at least once or twice, I think that the only way to find out would be to open it up and do some measuring.

 

[Justin & Muttley]

My engine also has an AD case - it's a standard TP 1600!

Like you say, if you really need to know then crack it open and get measuring...

 

[slammedkustom]

if it was a 1300 in a bus it would be soooo slow, im talking 45MPH top speed. im guessing its a 1600 built on a replacement case.
if he is that worried then pull it out and crack it open but if its just for the V5 id change it to 1600 and get the right engine code on it