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iam going to fit one on my van, will use a sandwich plate between oil filter and housing then run the pipes somwhere in the
space above gearbox should be able to get a decent size cooler and fan there.
mocal make some good quality coolers tbh there's lots of choice on tinternet.
 
the mocal ones are nice, much better than the bag of pipes jobs in shrink wrap you see at shows.
that said, most important thing is to make sure it's in the airflow, not nailed to the underside of the floor by the gearbox in stale air.
for a cheap option, a mate runs a second stock oil cooler on a pipe run into the arch airflow and noticeably took the heat out of the motor when running fully loaded in summer 8)
 
Geeze said:
the mocal ones are nice, much better than the bag of pipes jobs in shrink wrap you see at shows.
that said, most important thing is to make sure it's in the airflow, not nailed to the underside of the floor by the gearbox in stale air.
for a cheap option, a mate runs a second stock oil cooler on a pipe run into the arch airflow and noticeably took the heat out of the motor when running fully loaded in summer 8)[/quote
any cooler fitted will help cool the oil,if you can get it in some good airflow all the better.
for my self i will need to use a fan because i am limited to where i can fit the cooler.
 
For my 2110 me and my engine builder have decided to remove the heater pipe between the chassis rails and fit the largest cooler possible between the chassis rails. It will be fan assisted and I'll fabricate an aluminium scoop too. Having a merged header means no heat exchangers so that pipe will be dud.

Karl
 
I like that idea.
I am going to run mine for a while and see what the oil does heat wise.
Got a friend running a 2110 with a single port cooler and shroud and that's it.
 
I run a 2276cc and run it hard,

got it mounted between the chassis rail and inner sill pretty much oposite the sliding door.
 
Alex can you pop up some photos of it please :) .
That's where abouts where im thinking about putting mine too. Mines a split screen crewie with a 2.0 type 4 engine.

What did you fit and where did you get it from? I've been lookin at the ones from cool air as a kit.
 
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alex4057 said:
http://www.vwheritage.com/vw_spares_Oil-cooler-kit-T1-2-72-plate_act_shop.product_pID_95875_lang_EN_country_GB.htm

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Is this really the one you run Alex? Have read some mixed reviews of the Empi coolers on the Samba...just checking because if it's good enough for you, good enough for me!
 
I would buy a cooler from a motor sport retailer.
I have a aps cooler and a mocal thermostatic sandwich plate.
It cost me just over half of what the empi cooler set up retails at.
 
Just to throw a spanner in the works so to speak, do you need a remote cooler? I fitted a 2110 with twin 44's 2 years ago. It has full flow oil filter, a deep sump and very well sealed tin wear. I have a vdo oil temp gauge and even long journeys doing 70mph on the motorway the temp never gets beyond 103/105. Mostly on A roads it remains between 90 and 100. I was going to fit an external cooler but thought I'd give it a try without and have no intentions of doing so now especially as we don't get many hot days in the year!! What do others think?
 
It depends on the engine I guess
I tried without an external cooler and it was running hot.
However my engine isnt really a sensible bus engine as I am running pretty high compression
 
Yeah mine definitely runs hot without one so am looking into options also. Like you say, lot's of variables at play here I guess.
 
meowdmucker said:
Just to throw a spanner in the works so to speak, do you need a remote cooler? I fitted a 2110 with twin 44's 2 years ago. It has full flow oil filter, a deep sump and very well sealed tin wear. I have a vdo oil temp gauge and even long journeys doing 70mph on the motorway the temp never gets beyond 103/105. Mostly on A roads it remains between 90 and 100. I was going to fit an external cooler but thought I'd give it a try without and have no intentions of doing so now especially as we don't get many hot days in the year!! What do others think?

Same story here.

I was going to fit an extra cooler but decided to see how it ran without one first. The first 100 miles it ran quite hot at up to 110C and then ran cooler and cooler as everything bedded in.

Engine makes around 120 to 130 bhp. Using a stock cooler with aftermarket full flow filter the highest temperature reached was 115C at 80mph on a Spanish motorway in summer. Go figure...

The other thing to remember is an oil cooler cools the oil. The hottest part of your engine is the cylinder heads and valves. These are cooled by air, the cooling effect of the oil on the heads is shall we say "limited" :lol:

Overheated engines fail due to piston crown and valve damage, not from seized crankshafts.

If you fit a temperature gauge make sure the thing is accurate. Ive seen some that read 20C out.
 
Trikky2 said:
If you fit a temperature gauge make sure the thing is accurate. Ive seen some that read 20C out.

I've been advised not to fit temperature guages, purely for this reason. Would a CHT gauge be more useful, then again you are is still going down the road of unreliable guages.

Des
 
Put the gauge in boiling water to see if it's accurate. Takes all the worry away then. If not send it back!
 
Trikky2 said:
meowdmucker said:
Put the gauge in boiling water to see if it's accurate. Takes all the worry away then. If not send it back!

(He means the sender) :lol:


Yeah I just dropped my gauges in a pot of boiling water...I'm going to send them back because they are leaking!
 
Trikky2 said:
meowdmucker said:
Put the gauge in boiling water to see if it's accurate. Takes all the worry away then. If not send it back!

(He means the sender) :lol:

Ooops! Just ignore my posts in future or else someone is going to sue me at some point for duff advise! Well at least I know what I mean most of the time :lol:
 
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