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[chrisby]

Ive done since April on LPG,much more affordable to use,the cheapest I paid was 49.9p Ltr at Bristol ASDA.Just done a round trip of 1200 miles and it didnt miss a beat but jumping out of 3rd gear.Thats been solved today by a recon gearbox and an Empi shifter that I`ve fitted this evening,a bit more adjustment needed. :?

 

[scott wilson]

sweet..if you want more miles to the gallon still then pm me about hydrogen on demand. A minimum of 20% improvement on your existing set up or your money back...no **** and it works with diesel, petrol, lpg and it doesn`t cost a quarter of an lpg conversion, and yes it works with aircooled 8)

 

[Araon]

more info please...

 

[scott wilson]

it works with your existing set up. There are three jam jar size pods that fit nicely in the leisure battery area. These contain water with what is basically an anode and a cathode so that when you switch your ignition on they start producing hydrogen. There is a feed direct into the engine( a pipe) and the car runs on both hydrogen and petrol just meaning thatyou use less petrol. No modsrequired to the actual engine just the install kit. Kit costs around £350-400 installed for the basic kit. If you want more torque( ie for towing) then you have more pods. These conversions are being put on fleet cars, hgv`s and all manner of vehicles

 

[froggy]

it works with your existing set up. There are three jam jar size pods that fit nicely in the leisure battery area. These contain water with what is basically an anode and a cathode so that when you switch your ignition on they start producing hydrogen. There is a feed direct into the engine( a pipe) and the car runs on both hydrogen and petrol just meaning thatyou use less petrol. No modsrequired to the actual engine just the install kit. Kit costs around £350-400 installed for the basic kit. If you want more torque( ie for towing) then you have more pods. These conversions are being put on fleet cars, hgv`s and all manner of vehicles

Would like to see this in action.

Ive done since April on LPG,much more affordable to use,the cheapest I paid was 49.9p Ltr at Bristol ASDA.Just done a round trip of 1200 miles and it didnt miss a beat but jumping out of 3rd gear.Thats been solved today by a recon gearbox and an Empi shifter that I`ve fitted this evening,a bit more adjustment needed. :?

How much and where did you get the LPG conversion carried out?[

 

[Araon]

Been reading about this some time ago now......

problem is most of the spiel is american sales talk with the usual "Since installing this kit I have gained an extra 500 miles to the gallon and will be fitting it to my fleet, bla blah blah"

Its been really difficult working out just what the benifits are, from personal experiences....

Are you speaking from experience or are you on commission? :lol:

 

[scott wilson]

no i met the uk distributors trainer whilst he was down here on holiday. He had it installed on his bmw which he used for towing. Yo`re right though it is an american spiel normally. This is now avaliable as a complete kit and you don`t have to read a 1000 pages of nonsense. I`m gonna fit this to my bus sometime soon so `ill let you know how it goes.

 

[Araon]

do you have a web link I may look into it again....

theres a few on a theme out there...I was gonna raise it as a thread ages ago to see what the consencus was....

 

[Graham L]

Scott

I have to say after your first post I did a search and found lots of american sites and c**p videos on utube but none of them looked that believable with as Aaron said wild claims (guy with a 5 lite lump reckoned it halved his fuel bill :roll: :roll: which I found slightly hard to believe) and some talked about having to play with MAFF sensors etc.

Is there a link to a sensible UK site that you know of?

 

[AxlFoley]

sounds interesting. let us know how you get on once its fitted.

Mark

for the record, I have been driving my van all weekend, and have driven it in to work today, just because I could its curently doing arround the same MPG as my TT!! I love my van

 

[Guest]

sweet..if you want more miles to the gallon still then pm me about hydrogen on demand. A minimum of 20% improvement on your existing set up or your money back...no **** and it works with diesel, petrol, lpg and it doesn`t cost a quarter of an lpg conversion, and yes it works with aircooled 8)

so theres no fill of hydrogen at pumps needed? and i assume any extra hydrogen produced is stored somewhere? and the only fuel is water?

 

[froggy]

Am i missing something, isn't hydrogen a highly explosive gas?
I don't fancy driving round with a potential bomb in the boot, maybe i'm being a bit pesamistic but if it was this easy to use why have none of the big car companies experimented with it instead of playing with electric car that most go for?

 

[Araon]

they have and still are....this system is purely adding to the fuel small amounts supplimenting the petrol....on a commercial scale its the storage of the hydrogen thats the problem.....

your driving using a "combustion engine", you have an even bigger bomb in the back.... what tickles me is the use of glass jars for storage....

 

[Htotheunit]

I'd like some more info on this.. if it works, i will definitely get it done i've considered LPG, but the cost has scared me a bit

 

[scott wilson]

call steve chadwick area manager in preston lancs 07757 551515

 

[scott wilson]

just found the web address http://www.water4gasuk.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Guest]

ive just seena brand new LPG kit for sale £265 for a 4 cylinder engine, includes tank. Id say it will go quick if you want the number let me know.

Id have it myself but my new engine has cleaned me out.

 

[Benyon]

In the current 'transporter talk' (newsletter of the VWT2OC) there is a piece by a guy who has built his own hydrogen kit for no more than £20 using the bottom half of 2 stainless steel vacuum flasks and sealable plastic containers, the type you might put cereal in.

I don't have a scanner otherwise I would post the details, but in brief:

The bottoms of the flasks become a beaker within a beaker and are hooked up to the battery to make an anode and a cathode and are spaced with straws/silicon. These are then submerged in water in the sealable containers with tubing to take the hydrogen/oxygen mix to the inlet manifold where it mixes with the air/petrol from the carb. When the current is passed through the water it breaks the H2O into its component gaseous parts (2 parts hydrogen and one part oxygen) and as such there is never any high volumes of Hydrogen stored. He trialled his homemade system on a trip through France approx 1300miles and used 1.5litres of water, he didn't comment much on effiency other than to say his reduced fuel bill kept him stocked with beer through the trip and there was a noticeable improvement in performance.

I can try and take pictures of the article if people would like to see it...

 

[Guest]

Theres a thread on it somewhere here, i think they are being sold commercially and claim to reduce your fuel bill by 20%, as unleaded is 95p a litre here, that would bring it down to 76p, Red diesel territory. Two little pots shouldn't take up too much room.

The problem with conversion of water to its component parts has always been that it takes more energy to produce the gases than you get from burning the Hydrogen so its always been inefficient. As its only a top up fuel, and power to electrolyze the water comes from the alternator it should work in theory.

heres another.... http://www.gas4free.com/?hop=mac123" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

it smacks of a get rich quick scam, dodgey site, send them money, etc. :?

 

[Araon]

If you can post the pics great fella