Insulation / Sound Proofing

[KTetley]

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Self-Adhesive-Insulation-campervan-sound-deadening-VW-/170503505321?pt=UK_Campervan_Caravan_Accessories&hash=item27b2cd05a9" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Seems a decent price too. I would have thought 3 or 4 roles should do it.
Kev

 

[guidddo]

Looks ok to me.

For insulation you need enclosed air for soundproofing mass

i did it otherwise:

first layer is like dynamat but cheaper , i primerd it for smells
second layer is foam undercarpet
I like the results.

my first layer costs €29 for 1,6 sq meter
second layer was abbout €20 for 10 sq meters

so i think with that stuff from ebay you're cheaper and faster and better insulated but i think i have better soundproofing

you have to keep wondering with this kind of insulation/soundproofing what happens with condensation and the rust monster :roll:

with the oldschool mineral wool insulation the moist problem is less due to ventilation/open structure

In the yachting world they use a kind of PUR foam (dutch name don't know te correct english word) does the job verry good but no DIY job and not removable
no moist problems

 

[Matt_B]

I'm using Dynamat in my bus for sound-proofing - it's expensive but does seem to work very well. Then on top of that I'm going to use some thin Celotex type product for insulation.

But that stuff does look pretty good.

I have bought and used some of the cheaper products for sound-proofing but from my limited experience I was concerned about their adhesion, whereas the Dynamat stuck very very well. I'm hoping that a good adhesion to the metal surface will prevent condensation build up - time will tell!

 

[KTetley]

Cheers

Is this the suff?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dynamat-Superlite-Tri-Pak-/350397727180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51955501cc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kev

 

[guidddo]

yep, that's the light version of this

 

[Matt_B]

Cheers

Is this the suff?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dynamat-Superlite-Tri-Pak-/350397727180?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item51955501cc" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kev

I used this one, already used 1 box will need at least 1 more :shock:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DYNAMAT-SOUND-DEADNING-XTREME-Extreme-BULK-KIT-9-SHEETS-/310229237905?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item483b1a8091" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[guidddo]

So you can understand why i have used the cheaper stuff on my panelvan

 

[KTetley]

Matt

What places have you put it in? Any pics?
Kev

 

[Matt_B]

Matt

What places have you put it in? Any pics?
Kev

Hi Kev, there's a few pictures on my resto in the gallery: http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20949&start=20" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I've also had the fuel tank out and done in there, behind the firewall.

Next will be on any exterior facing panel I can get to! Cab doors, sliding door etc...

The panels that have be done sound great - you walk by and give them tap and they sound solid - not all tinny

Have a look in the gallery for Angus's thread he's done loads on the inside of his van.

Have fun!

 

[KTetley]

Looking good. Are you putting some insulation in too?

 

[lard]

I got my stuff off ebay - called "fat mat" and claims to be better and cheaper than dynamat - all I can sayvis that it went on well and is still stuck, loving the heavy tap on the panels!

 

[ozziedog]

FAT MAT ????? Can`t say I`ve heard of that, but I like the sound of it from your description. It`s all about size with me (insulating). Almost ready to do mine so I`ll keep this one in mind. Rough prices ????? any ideas ?????

Ozziedog,,, :?: :idea: :?: :idea: always more questions than answers :roll: :lol: :roll:

 

[AGC]

Im starting to think that insulation might be a waste of money in a Bus. My reason is the windows.... Because they are single glazed and make up such a large surface area of the bus any heat that builds up inside when its cold outside soon dissapears through the glass... converseley any heat from outside will pass through the glass to the inside when you want the inside to remain cool. Maybe some insulation in the roof and painting the outside of the roof white may have some effect. Im also not sure that an insulated bus has less condensation than a non insulated bus... opening a window is the only way to get rid of condensation build up and that counters the effectivness of the insulation. what do you think?

 

[lard]

FAT MAT ????? Can`t say I`ve heard of that, but I like the sound of it from your description. It`s all about size with me (insulating). Almost ready to do mine so I`ll keep this one in mind. Rough prices ????? any ideas ?????

Ozziedog,,, :?: :idea: :?: :idea: always more questions than answers :roll: :lol: :roll:

Here you go http://www.fatmat.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's sold on ebay by the Uk distributer

With regards insulation in the bus - I'm using fat mat for sound deadening with the added side affect that it also provides a level of insulation - I've a new floor with insulation underneath and in the head lining - a good point on the windows but I intend to use thermo mats which made a big difference IMO when I used them this year

 

[Matt84]

I'm also reading this thread with interest, I'll be doin this soon and I'm not too bothered about heat insulation, more the sound part, and not so much about containing sounds within the car for a good sounding system, I want to reduce the engine noise as much as possible (although I believe the two go hand in hand). There seems to be lots of products out there for reducing panel vibration, I like the look of the 'noisekiller' products

http://www.noisekiller.co.uk/aclass_hymer_selfbuild_dodge_soundproofing.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I was also interested in containing as much noise as possible within the engine bay, which is something noisekiller 'eggbox' claims to do.

As I said, haven't done mine yet, some more people who have may be able to advise you better, but just to let you know there's plenty of options!!

 

[71Westy]

You can have a look at my thread too
http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=21724" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I used a compromise soundproofing product from ebay (soundx????) - supposed to be a mixture of rubber and bitumen. I was surprised how thin it was, but it has made quite a difference in the back (not in the front).

I have put B&Q insulation in as you can see, but like others here, I doubt it makes a difference with the glass, and indeed metal (which conducts the heat better) up top.

Over the engine bay I used a soundproofing carpet picked up cheaply at a VW show, which made a hell of a difference too.

Don't expect miracles tho - it's still noisy compared with modern transport
Nick