well that was a waste of time !! I was getting ready to tack it in place and the wife says whats that?, wheres it going? I explained and she said... I sit there and have no need for it, its pants and unless you have the wrong seats or very short legs it can go in the bin :shock: . so ive oiked it.. maybe a market for someone to take on, I asked my 8 year old and he said ner looks like a bus or a church thing for kneeling on :lol: