cheers guys.seems these wilwoods have started a trend hey.will have to check the numbers on the box thats in the workshop but they are 120 something so your prob right.they are the dinolight range.i had some braded hoses made at a local motorsport place who builds rally cars,they are flexi and about 50mm shorter than stock ones.if your making your own or get some made make sure you get the correct fitting on the caliper end as its a tapered thread and slightly different pitch compared to the ones on the vw hoses.