Headlining Install - Sound-proofing and Insulation?

[cunning plan]

Any suggestions for what to use to sound-proof and insulate, to some extent, before I install the headlining on my bus? oke:

Ideally I would like to stay away from that hard and thin, rubber-type material.

I certainly do not want anything that will cause condensation or hold water! :x

So the primary function is to reduce noise and vibration. Any insulating properties will be a bonus. arty0021:

Link dumps for my own reference:

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=46020&hilit=headlining" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47311&hilit=headlining" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[Merlydog]

I did a fair bit of research on this when I had my new headlining installed. In the end I settled for nothing, like you suggest most of its a moisture trap and to be honest the difference between having it fitted and not wasn't worth the extra outlay. Or at least the ones I've tried haven't, but then I guess they could have crap sound proofing fitted?

 

[Resto-raider]

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

 

[paradox]

Im using a different approach to most but im going to be coating most of the inside of my bus with this sort of stuff

http://www.linex.com/pages/2010/bedliners/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Buying it in and applying it myself works out cheaper than a decent cab mat and wheel arch carpet kit and it thickens up the panels to lower the resonance of steel panels

 

[sparkywig]

I stuck a square of self-adhesive bitumen flashing on every panel. Worked wonders for reducing resonance, and the doors now shut with a satisfying clunk rather than a clang.

 

[g16stu]

Im using a different approach to most but im going to be coating most of the inside of my bus with this sort of stuff

http://www.linex.com/pages/2010/bedliners/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Buying it in and applying it myself works out cheaper than a decent cab mat and wheel arch carpet kit and it thickens up the panels to lower the resonance of steel panels

when are you planning to do this, id be interested to see the details / results??

 

[art b]

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

that looks like a winner ... 8)

 

[paradox]

Im using a different approach to most but im going to be coating most of the inside of my bus with this sort of stuff

http://www.linex.com/pages/2010/bedliners/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Buying it in and applying it myself works out cheaper than a decent cab mat and wheel arch carpet kit and it thickens up the panels to lower the resonance of steel panels

when are you planning to do this, id be interested to see the details / results??

Once my bus has been painted so in a couple of months time

 

[Marriedblonde]

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

Ihave thesame and it made a huge diffrence n quieting down the interior. I used dnyamat type stuff over the engine, front cab floor, walkthrough and interior panels and doors.

J.

 

[jonboylaw]

I stuck a square of self-adhesive bitumen flashing on every panel. Worked wonders for reducing resonance, and the doors now shut with a satisfying clunk rather than a clang.

Sparkywig,
Where did you source it from !

Jon


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[Chrisgooner]

I stuck a square of self-adhesive bitumen flashing on every panel. Worked wonders for reducing resonance, and the doors now shut with a satisfying clunk rather than a clang.

Sparkywig,
Where did you source it from !

Jon


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If its the same stuff I bought a roll of bitumen flashing from b&q and then cut it to suit.

 

[Chrisgooner]

Any suggestions for what to use to sound-proof and insulate, to some extent, before I install the headlining on my bus? oke:

Ideally I would like to stay away from that hard and thin, rubber-type material.

I certainly do not want anything that will cause condensation or hold water! :x

So the primary function is to reduce noise and vibration. Any insulating properties will be a bonus. arty0021:

Link dumps for my own reference:

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=46020&hilit=headlining" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47311&hilit=headlining" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I used thermawrap in mine, fixed with extra strength spray adhesive works a treat and it's cheap.

 

[Bay-low71]

I've had good reports about fat matz.....available on flee bay it's what I'm going to try i think throughout the bus. Is a bit pricey, the other is noisekiller advertised in all VW mags.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-sq-ft-FATMAT-RATTLETRAP-Thick-Heat-Sound-Deadening-Free-Dynamat-Roller-UK-/290643819672?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43abb8bc98" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ben

 

[cunning plan]

Thanks for the ideas and opinions chaps :mrgreen:

I've had good reports about fat matz.....available on flee bay it's what I'm going to try i think throughout the bus. Is a bit pricey, the other is noisekiller advertised in all VW mags.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/100-sq-ft-FATMAT-RATTLETRAP-Thick-Heat-Sound-Deadening-Free-Dynamat-Roller-UK-/290643819672?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43abb8bc98" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ben

Offfhh. I am sure it is good, but that is a bit expensive for me dude.

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

That looks pretty good, plus being foam, it shouldn't really retain moisture.

I will look for some. arty0021:

Thanks dude!

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

Surprisingly, a good point!

Im using a different approach to most but im going to be coating most of the inside of my bus with this sort of stuff

http://www.linex.com/pages/2010/bedliners/index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Buying it in and applying it myself works out cheaper than a decent cab mat and wheel arch carpet kit and it thickens up the panels to lower the resonance of steel panels

when are you planning to do this, id be interested to see the details / results??

+1 actually. I do not think I personally would want to try it, but I would be interested in the results. :satanlook:

I stuck a square of self-adhesive bitumen flashing on every panel. Worked wonders for reducing resonance, and the doors now shut with a satisfying clunk rather than a clang.

Yah, I think I know the stuff. I will keep that in reserve in-case the egg shell idea falls-through. :?

I used thermawrap in mine, fixed with extra strength spray adhesive works a treat and it's cheap.

Like this?
http://www.diy.com/nav/build/insulation/constructional-insulation/roof_insulation/Thermawrap-Loft-Insulation-11597554?ecamp=cse_go_12108260&tmcampid=4&tmad=c&CAWELAID=916286883&noCookies=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
oke:

Hmm, now I cannot decide between that and the egg shell foam as that seems like it would be even less likely to store moisture and it has a lower profile :?:

 

[CockneyPlayboy]

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

What make of glue did you use to secure this please matey??

 

[cunning plan]

Hey buddy, if it helps, I'm using this:

High-temperature resistant adhesive spray.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180704440516?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

from MegaVanMats :shadey:

 

[vwcanuck]

I too plan on soundproofing my panel later this year. Has anyone seen any sound test data on the effective performance of these products? I want to get before and after decibel readings, at a stop and driving at various driving speeds, during my interior refit ... but don't hold your breath, it will be a while.

The eggshell foam seems interesting.

 

[Resto-raider]

I used sound proofing eggshellfoam from a DIY store under my vinyl headliner.

Whatever you use make sure to use a good heatresistant glue. The roof will get very hot when in the blazing sun. Mine started to come loose. Luckily I hadn't glued in the vinyl headliner yet.

What make of glue did you use to secure this please matey??

I used Bison Tix. It is a gel like glue that you can brush on and once it is stuck it will last.

 

[Supertramp]

Would the eggshell foam be OK under a headliner? Ie, will a headliner fit once you've installed the foam?

 

[Bay-low71]

Spoke to Noisekiller peeps at the VoWo show and the eggshell is to thick for standard headlining.... I asked the same question...Ben