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trebor

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Just tried to get them off and I now need yet another socket. Measured it at 45mm but my eyes are not so good. Looked around and there's mention of 46mm. Is this the one to go for ?


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I would just cut them off and replace with new ones - much easier than trying to loosen them!
 
Get a 3/4 breaker bar and a 3/4 46mm socket. Deep one probably, cheapest one for me was on Amazon about 8 months ago.

You'll need a length of bar to use as a cheater.
 
As above, a 3/4" socket set is what you want.Preferably with a 6 foot scaffold bar :)

You'll need it to tighten the nuts even if you do cut them off.

Use your bathroom scales to measure the torque when you tighten it back up :)
 
StuF said:
I would just cut them off and replace with new ones - much easier than trying to loosen them!

This everytime, i always order a couple when doing the rear, they are always a huge ball ache to get off and take seconds if you cut them off :mrgreen:
 
rlepecha said:
Get a 3/4 breaker bar and a 3/4 46mm socket. You'll need a length of bar to use as a cheater.

This! ^^^

Also, get a friend to tap the end of the breaker bar at the socket with a 5lbs hammer. This imitates the action of an impact gun and will make it easier to remove. I've heard too many stories about reproduction axle nuts cracking for me to throw out originals.
 
When you tighten them up you most probably won`t need the scaffold bar if you have a decent torque wrench, that torque isn`t as massive as you think to do up,, it is to loosen because it`s been on so long. Try and get a torque wrench on it or use your body weight at the appropriate place on the bar which is easy enough to work out with a little basic maths and is surprisingly accurate (funny that :lol: ) If you tighten them up with a six foot bar with no real idea of how tight you are doing them, you`d be surprised at the torque that can be achieved like this. To loosen a very tight highly torqued nut that`s been set for a while, you may have to apply five to ten times the original amount of torque to loosen it.

Ozziedog,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, So very very carefull both ways :mrgreen:
 
easy said:
StuF said:
I would just cut them off and replace with new ones - much easier than trying to loosen them!

This everytime, i always order a couple when doing the rear, they are always a huge ball ache to get off and take seconds if you cut them off :mrgreen:

Do you not worry that you will cut into the stub axle / spindle? :shock: :?: :msn4:
 
cunning plan said:
easy said:
StuF said:
I would just cut them off and replace with new ones - much easier than trying to loosen them!

This everytime, i always order a couple when doing the rear, they are always a huge ball ache to get off and take seconds if you cut them off :mrgreen:

Do you not worry that you will cut into the stub axle / spindle? :shock: :?: :msn4:

Nope, careful is that careful does 8) after you have cut part way through you will find they come off any way ;)
 
easy said:
Nope, careful is that careful does 8) after you have cut part way through you will find they come off any way ;)

Braver than me easy man ;) :mrgreen:

Although I had to buy two new stub-axles as the ones on my bus were damaged anyway, so maybe I am still angry about that :lol:
 
Well I was determined to get them off, first one came off ok with the help of my monster torque wrench an old neighbor gave me. The other side was a different story. I had the handbrake on, had it in gear, heated nut and soaked in oil as it cooled down, gave it shock treatment on the flat sides, jumping up and down on the bar. :x Had to block the wheel with a bit of 3" wood, the wheel was still trying to climb up when I jumped on the bar. Then I tried this which Kept the wheel on ground and it couldn't try to climb up it. Bingo nuts off :) I put the wood on the wrong side for the picture :oops:

 
I hope the torque wrench was shafted in the first place, as it probably is now! :lol:

I've always pulled the breaker upwards rather than jumping on the bar as weight legs can push > my weight. Have heard of people jacking buses and lowering the bar onto some blocks as that is a considerable weight being used to crack it off! 8)
 
I think Moseley was implying that a "torque wrench" should only be used to fine tune the torque of a nut/bolt after using a standard wrench/ratchet to tighten close to the specified torque. If you meant to say you used a "breaker bar" ... then keep on keeping on! :)
 

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