No worries 67Westy - Glad Graham is at the forefront on this subject I'm sure he'll come up with the goods - the fact they are serviceable makes the extra outlay more worthwhile as well. Think i'll prob put the cheap beetle ones for now - still looking into the monroe max airs, they look good but take your point Graham think to make it driveable ie not bottom out, you'd need to max inflate them which would prob lift the front the same if not more than the coil overs. the min pressure ie max drop would prob only be for show???