Bumpy Ride - Lowered '68 - How?

[cunning plan]

Bring it to a professional to get it looked at -

http://www.thebusstation.co.uk/servicesbus.html

Hmm, prices seem *reasonable*... Are they anything to do with you?

 

[Guest]

£1000 should easily get you sorted, did you think about putting latebay spindle/discs/caliper setup on the front as its a straight switch? i got both sides complete from FBI.

 

[Joval]

Bring it to a professional to get it looked at -

http://www.thebusstation.co.uk/servicesbus.html

Hmm, prices seem *reasonable*... Are they anything to do with you?

nope, just a link I picked up while shopping around for info on dropping my bus.

 

[Clem]

Bring it to a professional to get it looked at -

http://www.thebusstation.co.uk/servicesbus.html

Hmm, prices seem *reasonable*... Are they anything to do with you?

Mark at The Bus Station is a member on here. His work is very well regarded, and he built an fab 68 Microbus that was mag featured last year.

 

[cunning plan]

i got both sides complete from FBI.

http://www.fbivw.com/partssales/index.html are they these guys? Late bay discs could be a good option, do I need a servo?

 

[Clarkson46]

Just to get this back into perspective, you have a beam that was fitted between 1968 and 1970 so you cannot just fit any beam, it must be the right one, the difference is the mounting holes in the chassis. This age of beam will have drums just like yours, so to convert to later discs will need the steering knuckles, hub assemblies, calipers, brake discs and new flexibles from a post 73 van. This will then give you the later style wheels as well so you need to plan what it is you want. If you go down the route of converting to the later set up, you will then need to consider what you will do about the rear brakes. For an all round job these would benefit from fitting later brakes as well. All this can be done but at a cost. We've recently done it to a '68 and the brakes are superb without a servo.

 

[Guest]

like clarkson says you dont need a servo, the CE beams come with two lots of stud mountings and will fit any bus from 54 to 80 balljoint beam check it out here... http://www.creative-engineering.com/cgi-bin/shop/web_store.cgi?page=beams.html&cart_id=4764534_10761
both Easy and Ant on here have them fitted and i believe they are quality.

If you do go the disc route and you want to stay wide five which most people do, the kits can become very expensive (upwards of £700). If you buy a weedeater, its narrowed already and can accomodate the latebay brake setup (complete cost me £200 for both sides from FBI spindles/discs/backingplate/calipers). You would be able to fit narrow five to wide five adapters and keep the wide five tyres with no increase in track.

Weedeater beam £450
latebay front disc brakes (complete) £200ish
112 to 205 adapters (pair) £100

you would still have change of £1000 :wink:

 

[easy]

like clarkson says you dont need a servo, the CE beams come with two lots of stud mountings and will fit any bus from 54 to 80 balljoint beam check it out here... http://www.creative-engineering.com/cgi-bin/shop/web_store.cgi?page=beams.html&cart_id=4764534_10761
both Easy and Ant on here have them fitted and i believe they are quality.

If you do go the disc route and you want to stay wide five which most people do, the kits can become very expensive (upwards of £700). If you buy a weedeater, its narrowed already and can accomodate the latebay brake setup (complete cost me £200 for both sides from FBI spindles/discs/backingplate/calipers). You would be able to fit narrow five to wide five adapters and keep the wide five tyres with no increase in track.

Weedeater beam £450
latebay front disc brakes (complete) £200ish
112 to 205 adapters (pair) £100

you would still have change of £1000 :wink:

Now thats tech help 8)

Go forth and purchase :mrgreen:

 

[cunning plan]

like clarkson says you dont need a servo, the CE beams come with two lots of stud mountings and will fit any bus from 54 to 80 balljoint beam check it out here... http://www.creative-engineering.com/cgi-bin/shop/web_store.cgi?page=beams.html&cart_id=4764534_10761
both Easy and Ant on here have them fitted and i believe they are quality.

If you do go the disc route and you want to stay wide five which most people do, the kits can become very expensive (upwards of £700). If you buy a weedeater, its narrowed already and can accomodate the latebay brake setup (complete cost me £200 for both sides from FBI spindles/discs/backingplate/calipers). You would be able to fit narrow five to wide five adapters and keep the wide five tyres with no increase in track.

Weedeater beam £450
latebay front disc brakes (complete) £200ish
112 to 205 adapters (pair) £100

you would still have change of £1000 :wink:

Now thats tech help 8)

Go forth and purchase :mrgreen:

Dam right, thats exactly what i needed. I just *hopefully* bought a complete disc set up from a '71 off JP on here. If you were going on £200, he wanted £100 for everything so sounds like a good deal..

Also have complete set of disc brakes including calipers, discs, carriers and hubs also rear drums/ arms all in good working order when removed now upgraded to Porsche 4 pots all round so not required £100 the lot.

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Watch this post for updates, thanks for the help so far guys, i need help in the right direction but once heading there Ill just get on with it 8)

 

[Joval]

Just be aware they're (71 model) one year only parts.

Don't know if that'll be a problem - if the parts are good it shouldn't be...

Don't forget wheels to match

 

[Clarkson46]

Be aware a 71 beam may not fit. You have a '68 and they are different.

 

[Guest]

caliper and pads are slightly different but you can still get the pads for the same price as later pads, i have a full 71 front brake setup in good order if you need any parts :wink: .

 

[Guest]

what you have bought will bolt right in as i saw it forsale in the other thread.

if your changing your beam you will need to get a beam with early pattern bolt setup but i guess that down the line a bit.

 

[Araon]

PM eascoastslammer he may be able to sort you out a new and well priced beam to fit your requirements.

I did have his number but cant find it.... johnny you've talked on the phone have you still got his details?

believe hes based in Bostn lincs....

 

[cunning plan]

Guys I really appreciate all the good advice and help here, keep it coming :wink:

Johnny, im going with your suggestion of a new weedeater beam, will this have all the holes in the right places to bolt the '71 parts onto:?:

PM eascoastslammer he may be able to sort you out a new and well priced beam to fit your requirements.

I did have his number but cant find it.... johnny you've talked on the phone have you still got his details?

believe hes based in Bostn lincs....

Okl, I might try contacting him if anyone has his number? Does he have a shop or anything?

caliper and pads are slightly different but you can still get the pads for the same price as later pads, i have a full 71 front brake setup in good order if you need any parts :wink: .

Good to know :wink:


One thing im still confused about is the rear of the van, will this of been done properly or will it also need big cash spent on it? :shock:

 

[Joval]

Rear is easier, it's just a matter of adjusting the spring plate on the torsion bar splines - VW designed it to be adjustable.

Yours looks like two outer splines down which means your spring plates should be notched,
bump stops removed or cut down and shorter shocks fitted. Standard front shocks I found are the right size.

 

[Araon]

he sells on ebay and has a workshop operating out of lincolnshire, not sure on his ebay name though.

the rear will have been done very cheaply (at a guess) as most are by rotation of the torsion bar/springplates a given number of turns for a given drop, easy to sort out yourself once you have the front sorted....

looking at the front I cant imagine them using lowered spring plates or horse shoes.

have a quick look under and you will see straight away or get a quick snap of it on here

 

[chippi]

Hi all, im in a similar position at the mo with trying to raise the rear, the spring plates havent been notched but the bump stops are gone, now i can get my head round the turning of the outer splines but what happens if the torsion bar comes out of the inner when i try to pull the plate off the outer spline? :? . Now i dont no if when it was lowered which splines were turned but thought i would try the outside first , does this sound like the right approach to you guys . Cheers

 

[Joval]

Ease the plate off gradually as you tap the torsion bar back in with a hammer, if both come out together mark the angle on the chassis once the load is off it.

EDIT: How much do you want to raise it by?

http://forum.earlybay.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8232" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

 

[chippi]

Do you think i will need to replace the shocks and bump stops if i raise it say 1-2 splines the shocks look old and stock but dont appear to be leaking. Cheers