Door speakers??????

[Tristan71]

Hi just wondered how others have got speaker wires into the doors ????

 

[mychatype3]

I’ve taken the doors out and drilled a hole in the door and the door-post, with a rubber-crommet for safety.

 

[Tristan71]

Any pics ???

 

[mychatype3]

Everyone loves picas :lol:

(don’t mind the pink paint :lol: it’s on water basis to now how the door was marked)

Greetings from holland, mycha

 

[Chris73]

Hi Tristan,

Do you really need them in the doors? Best place is the kick panels, a lot easier to fit and don't have the problem of water leaking on to them if your window seals are as bad as mine....

 

[K@rlos]

Hi Tristan,

Do you really need them in the doors? Best place is the kick panels, a lot easier to fit and don't have the problem of water leaking on to them if your window seals are as bad as mine....

I had mine in the doors but then moved them to the kick panels. Had the problem of the mirrors vibrating badly if I had the volume up, although saying that I do listening to drum & bass :lol:

 

[Tristan71]

I've already made 6 x 9 pods and blended them in on the door cards I've looked on the door pillar I could drill it and pop out where the door pin switch wires come out ????

 

[Trikky2]

Hi Tristan,

Do you really need them in the doors? Best place is the kick panels, a lot easier to fit and don't have the problem of water leaking on to them if your window seals are as bad as mine....

The sound quality is better when fitted in the doors. There should be a plastic membrane between the door and the card (glued to the door) so no water reaches the card or the speaker.

 

[aspro]

Hi Tristan,

Do you really need them in the doors? Best place is the kick panels, a lot easier to fit and don't have the problem of water leaking on to them if your window seals are as bad as mine....

The sound quality is better when fitted in the doors. There should be a plastic membrane between the door and the card (glued to the door) so no water reaches the card or the speaker.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you will need to tear the plastic film to fit the speaker therefor making it redundant and exposing the speaker to water. Agree the sound quality will be slightly better than in the kick panels. Kick panels are useless for 6x9's as they need a sealed enclosure. Technically both doors and kick panels aren't well suited to speaker mounting, if you want good sound quality. I guess it depends on what you're after. If you just want to play some tunes then stick them in the doors, but if you're spending big bucks and actually want to hear quality music then you may have to mount them elsewhere.

 

[Trikky2]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you will need to tear the plastic film to fit the speaker therefor making it redundant and exposing the speaker to water.

Consider your self corrected :lol: The OG plastic membrane is stretchy.

I suppose if one fitted big speakers that protruded a huge amount then the plastic would not stretch enough but most modern car speakers are pretty shallow - a fill in patch could always be let in anyway.
In addition, a bit of heat from an electric paint stripping gun will allow even the most stubborn of plastics to stretch.

There were also speakers sold that had plastic shields on the top. to deflect falling water but I never much liked the idea because the speaker would still be exposed to very moist air and probable condensation.

 

[TimmyTimTims]

Kick panels are useless for 6x9's as they need a sealed enclosure.

Really? I was going to put some 6x9's under my dash. I read on another forum that 6x9's are designed for free air use. I guess I'll just try it and see

 

[aspro]

Kick panels are useless for 6x9's as they need a sealed enclosure.

Really? I was going to put some 6x9's under my dash. I read on another forum that 6x9's are designed for free air use. I guess I'll just try it and see

Correct they are designed for free air use however to achieve maximum bass then you should seal them. I'm not saying they won't work fine in the kick panels, you just won't get a great sound like you would correctly mounted elsewhere. Plus the kick panels are quite flimsy and don't provide the speaker with a firm seal.

 

[aspro]

Correct me if I'm wrong but you will need to tear the plastic film to fit the speaker therefor making it redundant and exposing the speaker to water.

Consider your self corrected :lol: The OG plastic membrane is stretchy.

I suppose if one fitted big speakers that protruded a huge amount then the plastic would not stretch enough but most modern car speakers are pretty shallow - a fill in patch could always be let in anyway.
In addition, a bit of heat from an electric paint stripping gun will allow even the most stubborn of plastics to stretch.

There were also speakers sold that had plastic shields on the top. to deflect falling water but I never much liked the idea because the speaker would still be exposed to very moist air and probable condensation.

I'd like to see you stretch it around a 6x9. Regardless a speaker requires air flow behind it to produce sound. By stretching it over the plastic you are suffocating the speaker. Sorry to say but a really bad idea.

 

[Tristan71]

The pods I've made fit at the bottom of the door and lift the bottom of the speaker up out off the door cavity but il still fit a plastic shield above it to Chanel any water away from the speaker I've tried them off the head unit and they sound pretty good nice deep base il just mount a tweeter up a little higher il try and post a pic later

 

[Tristan71]

They just fit !!

 

[Trikky2]

Regardless a speaker requires air flow behind it to produce sound. By stretching it over the plastic you are suffocating the speaker. Sorry to say but a really bad idea.

You made an interesting and valid sounding point. I am always willing to give things a try and getting better sound quality is appealing.

This afternoon I took a door panel off and removed the plastic from behind one of the door speakers.
Sadly I have to report that I could not detect any difference.

Asked the mrs to have a listen and a twiddle of the knobs but she could not tell any difference between the two doors either (I had hoped that she would detect something after all that messing about - doh :lol.

I can only surmise that average sized, all be it good quality, door speakers just dont move enough air around for the thin plastic to restrict, especially since there is of course no "seal" effect - the plastic is not attached to either the speaker or the door card itself.

Just thought you might like to know.

 

[Tristan71]

My door card are a little more cunning I built them as the speakers where intended to be used on a firm base with free air so I've made the platform as rigid as possible using and mdf ring and fibre glass from the ring to the card once I'd blended everything I cut through the bottom 2 " of the pod down to the door card making a big vent then covering with acoustic cloth I've built subs too but I'm now thinking it could be over kill

 

[BJ1]

What is this all about? Sound quality in a Jag - well yes, but in an old noisy bus????

I have single speakers behind the dash in my splits - love the mono 60s sound.

In the bays I have door speakers - sound crappy - and rear speakers - sound crappy but louder :lol:

 

[Tristan71]

Just trying to get base without subs really, everybody's different