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T2-Nate

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Hi there Guys,
My name is Nathan and I live in Antwerp, Belgium
I've been frequenting this forum on a daily basis, even during work I'd be sitting very still at my desk and browsing the many topics on here.
I've recently been down with the aircooled virus, first I got a mild fever when I restored my Vespa P range:
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But then I really got struck with an all-out nasty disease called VW aircooled mania... and I bought this nice early from Albert at thecoolvw in Holland.
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I saw it on his site and I was pretty sure it was gonna be this one... Don't ask me why. At first I thought it would need much work, and actually it didn't if I was just gonna get it back on the road. But being sort of a perfectionist, I soon started thinking of a total rebuild.

And so it began:
I took off the bumpers, the front one's bolt broke of one by one, rusted beyond undoing... the back one badly bruised in several accidents, I even found polyfiller on the damn thing, that ain't no bumper material baby...
Then the pop tops had to come of, gonna weld the roof shut or find a westfalia roof.
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I then started wirebrushing the chassis and wheeltubs, became pretty clean, I'll post some more pictures when I POR15'd them.
Before & After
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After I got out my new cutter, this is what's left of some rusty crap that I removed. You know, when I start cuttin', I don't stop...
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One example of a bad fix, several layers of rusty steel where there should be only one:
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I started working on my front axle, which has been upgraded to late bay disc brakes and late bay 5x112 lug wheels, sadly (now I can't fit those big moondiscs like in this pic (or can I??).
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So here's my old axle,
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Pretty bad huh, We can't weld our axles in belgium, it's not allowed.
So I found another foor 200 EUR, covered in rubber undercoating.
Here's me doing a happy joy joy job:
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POR15'd the thing, looks lovely now. I didn't leave any holes (didn't see any) for the axle to breathe or let out water, is it necessary?
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Splashed out on a good welder, been taking some bodywork classes since september, learned how to weld (still learning tho) but at least I'm getting a lot of practice.
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Started out on something rightaway:
Before:
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After
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In the meantime I was stripping the front axle before I removed it (time-warp) and cleaning the torsion arms & checkin the brake system.
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Discs and calipers looked badly worn..
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Repainted the spindles, and the trailing hook:
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Here is the front axle partly and fully rebuilt:
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I removed all of the windows to inspect for rust damage, all was well except for the windshield, this was far gone... I mean I've seen worse but there are some dodgy repairs:
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I ordered the parts yesterday for the nose, so I just put some rustkiller on it for the time being... In the meanwhile a friend who works at our "MoT" (he's gonna help me get thru the procedure) came round and we took out the engine:

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Some troubled times might be coming when the story continues...
Sneak preview:
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Hi Nate! Welkom hier op het forum! :D Ik zie dat je die bus bij Albert hebt gekocht. Je bent er al lekker aan bezig geweest! :shock: Veel succes en plezier ermee! :wink:
 
Thx Airtime, doing my best - I've been busy since a while, but due to my day-job I've only got time in the weekends, so what I'm showing here is a compilation of what I've done.
Since I'm doing al my work outside, I chose to do the mechanical stuff and taking care of the chassis first, and when spring/summer comes 'round, I'll be starting on the bodywork.
I'm NOT :roll: looking forward to closing those gaps in the roof, however...
Any tips would be welcome, I've been thinking about glueing two panels instead of welding, less chance of warps 'n stuff.
PLEASE DO share your thoughts with me on this one.
 
Here's some things I discovered while dismantling the engine:

-The alternator belt was loose, the bolts' gone missing - I wonder how long it's been rattling freely on the alt. support...
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See how dark the inside of the carb is? And how yellow/brownish its appearance is? I think it might have lost some fuel and even had a small fire somewhere in its past... I gave it a good clean and rebuilt it with new gaskets and stuff.
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The wiring of the coil and dizzy is in a very bad condition, has to be redone completely. As I'm in the dark concerning electrics, what gauge of wire should I use?
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The inlet manifold was intended for an automatic?? It had a vacuum pipe that's been shut off. It's rusty so I'll buy a new one.
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Dodgy wiring, what can I do about this?
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Bent pushrod tube, something happened here....
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Completely dismantled and cleaned by now, waiting for new parts to come in... updates coming soon.
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In the meantime had the engine tin glas-blasted by a friend, paid 14 EUR for it! -Before:
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During:
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After leadprimer (what should I put over it?)
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I found a complete Westfalia roof with newly packed rubber set for 200 EUR! Great find!
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And last weekend I did some welding on the walkthru - the driver's side is giving me some headaches, as I had very little to start with.
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Looks good mate :D thats my bus you have a piccie of, I have late bay disks on the front with adapters to fit the original wide 5 wheels 8)
 
your doing some sterling work 8)

This should be a really good resto. I also cant believe how clean your workshop is and its tiled! luxury :D
 
Hey Easy, I love your bus!
It's an inspiration to me!
I happen to have late bay spindles and discs, but also late bay wheels.
They don't take kindly to adapters (or any other way of "tuning" anything) here in petty, petty Belgium.
Thanx all for the encouraging words, it'll be great when I get a coat of paint on the old thing :)
 
Allrighty then, got some more work done --- happy days!!!

Started attacking the windshield area, done up everything but the driver's side, the bloody part gave me a hard time fitting it! Will try again when I feel like it...
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Then I went a little crazy and started doing all kinds of stuff, amongst them is the dash, the poor thing had a hard life - those nasty austrian firefighters put a lot of holes in him, was a nice job closing him up!
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I got tired of putting lead and filler in the holes so I decided I would take out the gas tank, give it a new coat of paint and clean it out:
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I put some POR15 on one side, the other side I did with Hammerite cause I ran out of POR15 (and it's expensive in Belgium!!)
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To clean it, I put some petrol based degreasing product inside and just whirled it about, then when it was dry I used the vacuum cleaner with an extention on it to remove some minor rust flakes.

Should start attacking this area soon:
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My new german doglegs came in the mail last week, so I tookthe week off and started grinding away at the elderly bus:
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Then I took its leg:
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I also attacked this area (forgot the english word for it) only to find it just didn't fit!
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When I cut some steel away, it appeared that some bloody dumbass replaced the inner part (after partially cutting it away) with some non-fitting part, leaving me sweating and cursing today...
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This part is worrying me too:
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My lovely girl helped me out today, started sanding the interior so it can be painted over (you can see the walkthru has been nearly finished too):
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Looks clean & ready for paint:
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That's all for now EB-folk!
 
i think when this is finished it will be an inspiration to alot of people. Good to see detailed pictures of what your doing as its a good reference for the rest of us, love it 8) , keep grafting away. 8)
 
keep up the good work but dont forget your vespa iv got three scoots and would never give them up
 
Ace work there fella, going really well and nice work. Its great to see a bus that is having such a top notch resto, nothing is being missed and will pay off in the end. Credit to you fella :wink: 8)
 
Well, I went at again today but had to make a short stop at BBT for some more parts, as I just kept cutting away at the poor bus :cool:

Took my trusty scoot for the parts, it almost took off on the way home.
Got a lot of stares from unsuspecting car drivers lol

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As you can clearly see, I'm cutting away far more than there's meant to be in that spot...

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Is THIS the rust monster/snake people always talk about ???

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Had to stop early as me dad picked me up to go fetch a refill for my gas bottle, I spent 10 liters already lol :cool:

It gonna be windy tonight and I got to protect my bus from the elements so gotta go.... wish me luck
 
Well, got a little update for y'all.
I've been so busy lately with removing the hidden rot from my bus,
that I sort of lost the drive to keep going. I almost completely removed
the cargo floor and the outer crossmembers, because of all the patchwork
I've found, that I missed at first.

Here's some pics of the condition it's in right now:

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As you can see I had to remove the whole sliding door rail due to numerous stupid repairs which have started to rot away underneath.
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At least the view ain't that bad
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Made a little somtin here:

Hole in crossmember:
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Template made:
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Steel part cut out and fitted:
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I'm getting some paint remover today as the noise and dust from sanding the red bugger is starting to freak me out. Not to mention me neighbours...

I'll keep you posted as soon as I start the extensive welding effort on my early.
 
Well, just a small update of my bay in the nude.
Stripped off most of the paint/filler/silvery filler/orange stuff that was under that red paint.
I'm glad I did it 'cause now I'm sure of what I have. Especially because
all manner of dodgy bits have been uncovered now, so I know where to cut and what to leave in!
The rear wheel arches need some minor work so I'm happy with that!
Unfortunately the rear corners and trays need total replacement.

Some before, during & afters:

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Pffewie I'm glad that's out of the way!
 

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