Narrowing is it worth it?

[sparkywig]

:lol:

 

[ianscooby]

Like most of you I like the look: a bit of advice though. I used to spend my hard earned cash on rallying until the family got bigger and the mrs sold my rally cars , the thing is do you ever see a tarmac rally car with narrow track on the front :?: answer no :!: they in fact have a wider track to make them more stable. I would assume that the millions that the manufacturers have spent on development has not gone to waste unless they have missed the point and that the track of a reliant robin is the best you can get.

 

[jjgreenwood]

Like most of you I like the look: a bit of advice though. I used to spend my hard earned cash on rallying until the family got bigger and the mrs sold my rally cars , the thing is do you ever see a tarmac rally car with narrow track on the front :?: answer no :!: they in fact have a wider track to make them more stable. I would assume that the millions that the manufacturers have spent on development has not gone to waste unless they have missed the point and that the track of a reliant robin is the best you can get.

Actually wasn't a reliant robin actually used for racing first of all. The morgan 3 wheelers where. Granted everything is wide these days - should we be trying to step out the wheels instead? Anyone got any ideas how to do this? I'd like that on my bus would look cool with my big white teledials.

 

[ianscooby]

Like most of you I like the look: a bit of advice though. I used to spend my hard earned cash on rallying until the family got bigger and the mrs sold my rally cars , the thing is do you ever see a tarmac rally car with narrow track on the front :?: answer no :!: they in fact have a wider track to make them more stable. I would assume that the millions that the manufacturers have spent on development has not gone to waste unless they have missed the point and that the track of a reliant robin is the best you can get.

Actually wasn't a reliant robin actually used for racing first of all. The morgan 3 wheelers where. Granted everything is wide these days - should we be trying to step out the wheels instead? Anyone got any ideas how to do this? I'd like that on my bus would look cool with my big white teledials.

Morgans had the third wheel at the back though!, may be we ought to tuck the rears instead :mrgreen: .

 

[faux]

If you narrow sensibly and lower the vehicle it is more stable than stock. I would be happy to do a friendly round about test with anyone with a stock bus :wink: I drove my bus a few time before it was lowered and I can easily get 10mph extra round corners.

If you lower a vehicle and don't narrow then it is even more stable again. My first bay was on an adjustable ball joint beam and cornered better than mine does now, but not by much. 8) Daz and Ian :lol:

Narrow is not unsafe if you bring the centre of gravity down to compensate, but if you think that it improves handling you are mad. I wanted to go quite low and this is the compromise, and I would never put my family at risk.

If on the other hand you narrow your beam by 4" (100mm) then put ball joint dropped spindle on (up to an additional 24mm) and a set of MWS wheels (up to 60mm additional offset) then you only narrow by 8mm each side. With a set of 175 tyres that is an additioal 10mm giving you 13mm each side, just enough to miss the arches when dropping nice and low.(approx. measurements)

After all of this however my bus is a bit more twitchy on rough roads than it was before. :mrgreen: I love it though.

 

[Guest]

what width would i lose/gain with this combo?

weedeater 83mm (or should i go for 4" narrow) + balljoint dropped spindles + 18mm porche adapters + 6J cookie cutters?

I'm not looking to go narrow as such but to allow the dropped spindles, adapters and tyre combo with no extra width.

just trying to make my mind up and need help

 

[Joval]

Wheel offset?

 

[Guest]

Wheel offset?

i was hoping someone else could tell me :lol:

 

[faux]

what width would i lose/gain with this combo?

weedeater 83mm (or should i go for 4" narrow) + balljoint dropped spindles + 18mm porche adapters + 6J cookie cutters?

I'm not looking to go narrow as such but to allow the dropped spindles, adapters and tyre combo with no extra width.

just trying to make my mind up and need help

I would think that you would end up pretty stock with the spindles, adapters and wheels. As far as I am aware the cookie cutters tend to be better than a lot of repro wheels. You may have fun on the rear with 18mm adapters though!

I think people forget how much tuck you get from standard steels on a bus, when you put after market wheels on it widens by quite alot, often up to 32mm. When you lower a bus it will accentuate the tuck too.

 

[Joval]

Just as a guide; mine are 5.5" ET 45 - 205 tyres with 20 mm adapters -

On a 6" rim you might get away with ET 50

 

[kempy]

what width would i lose/gain with this combo?

weedeater 83mm (or should i go for 4" narrow) + balljoint dropped spindles + 18mm porche adapters + 6J cookie cutters?

I'm not looking to go narrow as such but to allow the dropped spindles, adapters and tyre combo with no extra width.

just trying to make my mind up and need help

I would think that you would end up pretty stock with the spindles, adapters and wheels. As far as I am aware the cookie cutters tend to be better than a lot of repro wheels. You may have fun on the rear with 18mm adapters though!

I think people forget how much tuck you get from standard steels on a bus, when you put after market wheels on it widens by quite alot, often up to 32mm. When you lower a bus it will accentuate the tuck too.

Mine are stock wheels.
Rear lowered one spline with 185/65 R15.

Front lowered with adjusters & 175/65 R15

No clearance issues at all or adapters to different pattern wheels etc........