Well as some of you may have read and indeed probably replied to the Engine thread experience i posted i thought you had the right to know The Outcome or more to the point what i,myself and a fellow Vw owner found or exposed when we stripped the heads which prompted me to post in the first place.
Firstly i would like to add we have settled the dispute,but,the outcome is one that i did not want,when your stuck between a rock and a hard place well....
The following photos show what i found initially thinking it was a blowing exhaust.
Now the thread on the stud had been flatened which as a result the nut was only wound on by 2 maybe 3 threads at most and refused to wind on anymore than that
So i pulled the engine and started to strip the unit down to longblock yet again
We managed to get the stud out and removed 2 separate threads off the initial stud,see photo.
Now i don't know if it is common practice to use a stud,case saver and a heli coil or what ever the bigger of the threads is or whether you use a stud and and case saver only?Someone will be along shortly i expect to explain and dumb it down to my level.
Anyway,i then took the longblock over to this fellow VW owner in Malvern for him to have a look and explain what was/is the best thing to do and we started to strip the heads.
The entire thread was totally knackered and therefore the stud would not do it's actual job intended.
Whilst we were at it we checked the other side and found all studs not torqued up but a little harder than finger tight but no more.
As a result there is a slight lip on the heads,i don't know what the technical term for the part/position but at a guess where the piston and exhaust ports/holes are??Not drastic but not good iether.
It was decided that it was salvageable and the cost would be £70 or so if it worked.(did not strip down the whole engine,just the heads and barells)
Now my options were limited,i asked for a full refund due to this being the second unit i have had which was shite but was told that was not gonna happen,you can have another unit.
Well i certainly was not going down that road a third time i can tell you!!
Wouldn't trust him as far as my 8 year old son can piss!!
So i chose to try and repair this unit.
To be fair it had done around 700 miles albeit with a blowing cylinder head which i thought was a blowing exhaust joint which went quiet after getting up to operating temperature.
The engine unit is being repaired this week/weekend and hopefully it will hold and i can use it as intended.
Finally i would like brush over customer service and that communication is vital be it during the build process or in the event of a warranty claim.
After the first unit being faulty it took me from the June of 2013 to mid September 2013 to pin the engine builder down and eventually he agreed to exchange the whole unit so i had a "BRAND NEW" 1600 TP longblock.Tidy i thought,fitted the second unit and had to repair some of the exhaust studs and sump studs just like the first engine :roll: :? so you can imagine when i found out the route cause of the blowing exhaust was actually a failed cylinder head stud............I was PROPER PISSED!!!! And having the communication problem last time around i thought "Feck it! I'm not putting up with this!!! :evil: :evil: " So i posted on here,rightly or wrongly i can not take it back.
Going back to customer service being told"It's not that bad,it isn't like you broke down or anything!! Or even being stuck at the side of the road waiting for a recovery truck" And "Fucking Google pulled cylinder head studs there a common problem!" To me that was just down right rude,unapologetic and certainly not professional.
So the morale of this is that when you get a "Reconditioned Longblock" contrary to popular belief you need to check all studs before fitting because they are used items.
A bit like a tin of Delboy's paint and a local takeaway!! Check it first
Where as in my eyes "Reconditioned Longblock" means in as new condition like it left the factory.
That said if my/the mechanic's repair works and all is fine then i will be a Happy Camper again,it's just a shame it took this amount of aggro to get it sorted and i will definately be going elsewhere in the future,like some one who posted on the original thread i forget who."YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR".I paid peanuts compared to some and got monkey's.
Thanks for putting up with my rambling and moaning and sorry for the language if i caused offence.
***************************************************BUYER BEWARE!!*******************************************************
Sharky.
:sick0019:
Forgot the heading so amended :shock: That'll teach me for not proof reading it :lol: :lol: Lots of spelin mistakes ackording to computor :shock: :lol: :lol:
******************************************* But the title is CORRECT!!************************
Firstly i would like to add we have settled the dispute,but,the outcome is one that i did not want,when your stuck between a rock and a hard place well....
The following photos show what i found initially thinking it was a blowing exhaust.
Now the thread on the stud had been flatened which as a result the nut was only wound on by 2 maybe 3 threads at most and refused to wind on anymore than that
So i pulled the engine and started to strip the unit down to longblock yet again
We managed to get the stud out and removed 2 separate threads off the initial stud,see photo.
Now i don't know if it is common practice to use a stud,case saver and a heli coil or what ever the bigger of the threads is or whether you use a stud and and case saver only?Someone will be along shortly i expect to explain and dumb it down to my level.
Anyway,i then took the longblock over to this fellow VW owner in Malvern for him to have a look and explain what was/is the best thing to do and we started to strip the heads.
The entire thread was totally knackered and therefore the stud would not do it's actual job intended.
Whilst we were at it we checked the other side and found all studs not torqued up but a little harder than finger tight but no more.
As a result there is a slight lip on the heads,i don't know what the technical term for the part/position but at a guess where the piston and exhaust ports/holes are??Not drastic but not good iether.
It was decided that it was salvageable and the cost would be £70 or so if it worked.(did not strip down the whole engine,just the heads and barells)
Now my options were limited,i asked for a full refund due to this being the second unit i have had which was shite but was told that was not gonna happen,you can have another unit.
Well i certainly was not going down that road a third time i can tell you!!
Wouldn't trust him as far as my 8 year old son can piss!!
So i chose to try and repair this unit.
To be fair it had done around 700 miles albeit with a blowing cylinder head which i thought was a blowing exhaust joint which went quiet after getting up to operating temperature.
The engine unit is being repaired this week/weekend and hopefully it will hold and i can use it as intended.
Finally i would like brush over customer service and that communication is vital be it during the build process or in the event of a warranty claim.
After the first unit being faulty it took me from the June of 2013 to mid September 2013 to pin the engine builder down and eventually he agreed to exchange the whole unit so i had a "BRAND NEW" 1600 TP longblock.Tidy i thought,fitted the second unit and had to repair some of the exhaust studs and sump studs just like the first engine :roll: :? so you can imagine when i found out the route cause of the blowing exhaust was actually a failed cylinder head stud............I was PROPER PISSED!!!! And having the communication problem last time around i thought "Feck it! I'm not putting up with this!!! :evil: :evil: " So i posted on here,rightly or wrongly i can not take it back.
Going back to customer service being told"It's not that bad,it isn't like you broke down or anything!! Or even being stuck at the side of the road waiting for a recovery truck" And "Fucking Google pulled cylinder head studs there a common problem!" To me that was just down right rude,unapologetic and certainly not professional.
So the morale of this is that when you get a "Reconditioned Longblock" contrary to popular belief you need to check all studs before fitting because they are used items.
A bit like a tin of Delboy's paint and a local takeaway!! Check it first
Where as in my eyes "Reconditioned Longblock" means in as new condition like it left the factory.
That said if my/the mechanic's repair works and all is fine then i will be a Happy Camper again,it's just a shame it took this amount of aggro to get it sorted and i will definately be going elsewhere in the future,like some one who posted on the original thread i forget who."YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR".I paid peanuts compared to some and got monkey's.
Thanks for putting up with my rambling and moaning and sorry for the language if i caused offence.
***************************************************BUYER BEWARE!!*******************************************************
Sharky.
:sick0019:
Forgot the heading so amended :shock: That'll teach me for not proof reading it :lol: :lol: Lots of spelin mistakes ackording to computor :shock: :lol: :lol:
******************************************* But the title is CORRECT!!************************
