Brake Pipe Clips - What are they held with?

[cunning plan]

I am just in the middle of fabricating a new brake pipe system for the bus, but I am not totally sure what holds the brake pipes securely on the chassis 'C' type tab brackets.

These bits:

I am fairly sure I remember removing a 'C' type of clip like one of these:

https://www.vwheritage.com/shop/bay-bus/113611715A/clip-brake-hose-to-bracket-each-6-required-per-car/?crumbStartPage=1&crumbStartRow=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Or is it just a grommet?

Thanks guys..! :?

 

[Moseley]

Your link is correct!

 

[cunning plan]

Your link is correct!

Thanks for confirmation!

Any idea what these grommets are for:

https://vwheritage.mobi/GB/productDetails.cfm?iItemID=56271" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I assume you can't use the clip AND the grommet... or can you? :?

 

[Moseley]

They are where the brake pipe goes through a hole where it isn't a flexi to hard pipe connection. One I can think of off the top of my head is where the rear copper lines thread through the hub assembly - the bung just stops it from rubbing metal on metal where there isn't a connection that'll take a C clip. The C clip will locate on a welded 'prong' as can be seen in your picture and there is a groove on the brake pipe that this locates into. Absolutely shite description there I'm sure!

 

[cunning plan]

I thank you sir!